I tried to find the song “Same Old Wine” on YouTube, but seems no one likes this song as much as I do. But while searching, I found this instead. It really wasn’t what I wanted. But the song “Come Away With Me” (by Nora Jones and from her CD by the same name) has great sentiment and what a thought, to just “come away” to a peaceful place – where all feels so good. Then, add David Pelletier whom I adore – oh, a yummy ugh . . .(and Jamie Sale) and it’s a go, here, regardless of the tie in to my subject.
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Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker’s Son, Jay, Believes Gay Marriage is Okay With God. Okay With Him, Too.
Ted Haggard may get to be haggard at some point and admit he was born gay. Or just live an unnatural life. For him. Enough about Ted Haggard.
Wednesday night, February 7, I had the Sundance Channel on and was drawn to watch when I really needed to be working on something that needs to get done.
The show was about Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker’s son, Jay. You may or may not know about the Bakkers and the PTL club, i.e. the Praise the Lord club, I believe it was. But then Jim Bakker got caught doing some things wrong and was sent to prison. Jay is married and both he and his wife are very tattooed. Jay seemed to be fully tattooed. But then he did have clothes on. So I really don’t know. Anyway, Jay was affected by what his father the Reverend Jim Bakker did earlier in his life and started his own church called “Revolution”. I didn’t see everything, as I was trying to be “good” and do the “right” thing and do what needed to get done. But what I did catch (and then I just had to give it my full attention) was that he was speaking to the congregation and they were voicing loudly and enthusiastically their spiritual involvement until the Reverend Jay Bakker told them he had to support his friends and that he didn’t believe there is any thing wrong with being homosexual. Furthermore, he stated that he supported gay marriage. The congregation went immediately quiet. And he noted this and said so. He lost all but one financial backer of the church. And since then has lost that one last supporter. In the show, his wife wanted to go to med school and while Jay was nervously getting ready to go off to visit his father, she stayed back to work on her med school application.
Then we got to watch the whole awkward packing, traveling time and the meeting with the father. It was not all warm and fuzzy. It was well documented. Jay shared with his father how he stood on the gay issue. The father was not okay with that. The film is called “One Punk Under God”.
The blurb just below is taken from this web address:
http://worldofwonder.net/productions/networks/sundance/one_punk_under_god.wow
ONE PUNK, UNDER GOD is an observational documentary series that takes an all-access look inside the life of Jay Bakker and his Revolution ministry in
The 7 episodes will structure around a story arc where Jay examines and tests out a chosen Biblical scripture to discuss in his weekly sermon. We follow as he wrestles with the interpretations in his daily life, and finish the episode with his final sermon, as he preaches to his church members.
Tattooed and pierced, Jay's image certainly does not fit anyone's opinion of a religious evangelist. But by fusing together punk and Christian values, he is working to show the world just how hip and welcoming today's churches can be.
ONE PUNK, UNDER GOD is a punk rock religious passage, as we follow Jay on a personal journey to rediscover God and his life--without losing sight of the Revolution.
Executive Producers: Fenton Bailey & Randy Barbato
Supervising Producer and Director: Jeremy Simmons
Producer: Thairin Smothers
Written by: Kyung Sun Yu
Associate Producer: Sita Glennon
Editors: Grant Myers & Derek Vaughn
Directory of Photography: Goro Toshima
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GLAAD Tidings
We got a phone call from Sundance with the news that WOW's wonderful Jay Bakker series One Punk, Under God has been nominated for a GLAAD Media Award in the Outstanding Documentary category, up against some worthy contenders:
All Aboard! Rosie's Family Cruise (HBO)
Billie Jean King: Portrait of a Pioneer (HBO)
My Mums Used to Be Men (BBC America)
This Film Is Not Yet Rated (IFC Films)
The article below is taken from this web address:
http://www.rickross.com/reference/bakker/bakker19.html
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Hard rock preacher
Jay Bakker, Jim and Tammy Faye’s prodigal son, has come into his own as an alternative preacher, a pilgrimage chronicled in a Sundance Channel reality-TV series.
Minneapolis
By Pamala Miller
He has his mother’s eyes and his father’s chin, this son of
“One Punk Under God” follows the younger Bakker’s personal and spiritual pilgrimage, which has more universality than one might expect given his one-of-a-kind childhood.
He has been deeply affected by his parents’ misfortunes and divorce and by the strange upbringing he shared with his sister, Tammy Sue Bakker Chapman, who also works in ministry. His father, brought down by a sex and fraud scandal, served time in federal prison in
After a rough youth marked by rebellion and addiction, Jay got clean. His ministry style could not be more different from his parents’. They were shiny; he is rough. They were excessive; he is a minimalist.
Bakker, who is friendly and thoughtful, sprinkles his conversations with “Neat!” which, one suspects, he picked up from his mother, but otherwise his voice is his own. By phone from
Q First things first: How is your mom doing?
A Not well. She started hospice care a couple months ago. The cancer is at Stage 4; it’s spread to her lungs. I’ve been spending a lot of time with her. We’re very close.
Q What’s your relationship with your dad like now?
A It’s gone through a big transition, part of which the show records. When one of your parents is dying, you tend to reprioritize. I hadn’t been seeing my dad much — it was one of those things where you slowly drift apart — but I recently reached out to him, and it’s really been neat. We relate now as grown men, even though we may not see eye to eye on everything.
Q What kind of guy is he?
A Everything that’s happened has been hard on him, but he’s doing better. He’s very forgiving, very quiet, sensitive and kind, but also a man who has some fears because he’s been so hurt. He’s very, very shy of the media. But he’s a seeker of truth, a man who truly wants to understand the word of God.
Q Your mom grew up in
A Some aunts and uncles still live there, but I don’t see them often. But I love
Q Really?
A I just think it’s great fun. It’s a kick. It’s neat.
Q Tell us about your high school years.
A They were hard. My dad, of course, went to prison, and later my parents got divorced. The media were all over us. Kids picked on me. I got into fistfights in school [in
And yeah, I battled with drugs and alcohol, mostly alcohol. It was a very hard time. I got real disillusioned with the church. There’s nothing like going to church and hearing jokes about your parents. It was plain-out cruelty. Then the punk kids embraced me. I found a place with them.
Q How did you come to the ministry?
A Some friends were starting a church for punk rockers, skateboarders, that crowd, and they wanted me to be a part of it. The more I got into it, the more deeply I reflected on God’s message of grace. I realized that he loves us unconditionally. That changed my life.
Q How would you describe Revolution? Does it fall into the category of “emergent” church?
A Yes, it’s very close to that — a postmodern church, for sure. [Emergent-church pioneer] Brian McLaren is one of my heroes. I definitely consider myself part of that movement. I’m a great admirer of [Sojourners leader] Jim Wallis’ “red-letter Christians” [who emphasize a social-justice message derived from the words of Jesus, which in many Bibles are printed in red], of Tony Campolo and others of that ilk.
Q One of the major plot threads in “One Punk Under God” is your realization that you can no longer support exclusion of gay people from a full church welcome. How did that come about?
A I’d see how the church was treating gay and lesbian friends, and it broke my heart. I’ve studied the scriptures on this topic, and I don’t think it’s God’s intention to punish people for being gay. I just don’t see two people in a committed relationship as sinning.
Q “One Punk Under God” is marked by a lot of suspense. Will you follow your wife’s career from your Atlanta Revolution church to
A Well, I’m ministering in
Q What’s been the reaction to the show?
A It’s been mostly positive. I think it’s really neat, if the show touches people in a positive way.
Q Did you come up with the show’s title?
A No way; Sundance did. I don’t know if a guy who’s 31 can be a punk. Revolution meets in a bar; I guess there’s a punk ethic there. But I don’t listen to punk music.
Q What do you listen to?
A Jerry Lee Lewis, Waylon
Q When you’re by yourself with a Bible, what passages do you often turn to?
A There are two staples. One is the part where Jesus is sitting at Matthew the tax collector’s house and his followers are asked, Why does your teacher eat with such scum? and Jesus stands up and says, Healthy people don’t need a doctor; sick people do, and rebukes the religious teachers for being so exclusive. And the other is 1 Corinthians 13, about love. That’s the core of it all.
Q What do you most want to say to people?
A I’d like to encourage Christians who disagree to talk to each other respectfully. When we get angry and yell, we lose ground and we fail to grow. The church should be a place where people can respectfully disagree, a place of love and forgiveness.
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The Punk-Christian Son of a Preacher Man
http://www.rickross.com/reference/bakker/bakker15.html
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Bakkers' son has a ministry of his own
Jamie "Jay" Bakker preaches to a vastly different group of followers
http://www.rickross.com/reference/bakker/bakker2.html
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One Punk reveals an unlikely minister
http://www.rickross.com/reference/bakker/bakker18.html
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You might think I would be gay because I include this human rights issue. I'm not. Like I said, it's a human rights issue.
I've only seen the show a couple of times, but I like Jay a lot, and would actually credit Tammy Faye (who's been nice to the gays for a while, actually) for much of Jay's open-mindedness.
ReplyDeleteThanks for all the resources!
I only saw one episode. Jay has himself a good grasp on life - don't you think?
ReplyDeleteMy brother was a big donor to the PTL.